November 2022 Meeting Minutes and Proposed Rule Changes

The November 2022 meeting of the North Dallas RC Club occurred on November 16, 2022 at Prosper
Town Hall. President Josh Kleen called the meeting to order at 6:33 PM.
A motion was made, and seconded, to approve October meeting minutes as published. Approval passed
unanimously, by voice vote.
VISITORS – Kiyomi – a past member.
PRESIDENT’S REPORT — Josh Kleen:
Josh stated that most of what he has to cover will be in new business.
The FAA announced that it has named the AMA as the first recognized CBO (Community Based
Organization).
VICE PRESIDENT’S REPORT — Wayne Shuck:
No report.
SECRETARY’S REPORT — Billy Slater:
No report.
TREASURER’S REPORT — Art Wagner:
Art reported the financial condition as of the end of October .
A motion was made, and seconded, to approve the financial as presented by Art. Approval passed
unanimously, by voice vote.
Art reported that BTH bank has merged with Orgin Bank.
Also CD rates are going up and our field fund will benefit.
MEMBERSHIP REPORT – Bruce Lakatos:
Bruce reports 148 members as of the date of the meeting.
FIELD REPORT — Rex Lawerance:
Grass has been mowed and is in good condition.
SAFETY REPORT — Charles Schafer:
No incidents have been reported.
SOUND REPORT – Billy Slater:
Winter sound rules are in effect.

TRAINING – Rich Phillips:
Rich reports that no training is going on.
Charles Schafer reported that the club has acquired another trainer plane.
RAFFLE –Rich Phillips :
No raffle was held.
CD REPORTS and EVENTS:
Events for next year – 2023 – are
March 25th Lou Montanano Fun Fly
April/ May Spring Float Fly
July Summer Float Fly
October 13-14 War Birds Over Texas
TBD Jet Day
A motion was made, and seconded, to approve these events. Approval passed unanimously, by voice
vote.
OLD BUSINESS:
None discussed.
NEW BUSINESS:
Josh started a discussion on proposed rules regarding turbines and turbine safety at the field. Most of
this discussion centered around how inspections on turbines are done and guest rules involving
turbines.
After an extension discussion took place a motion was made, and seconded, to publish these proposed
rules for a December vote. Approval passed with two discenters, by show of hands.
The proposed rules are:
General Safety Code Changes
1) Pilots should keep all operations as close to the field as is reasonably possible. This includes keeping
normal operations between the cattle feeders to the north and the large tree lined fence to the south.
Operations over any structure, north of the far white fence and south of the tree line fence are strictly

prohibited.
2) While in flight, any pilot operating a turbine powered aircraft shall own all airspace subject to the
following conditions.
a. A “Dead Stick” aircraft ALWAYS has priority
b. If other aircraft are already flying prior to take off, the pilot or spotter of the turbine powered
aircraft shall seek approval to depart from the other flying pilots.
c. If multiple turbine powered aircraft are to be operated simultaneously, coordination must
happen prior to the first aircraft taking off.
d. Any pilot wishing to fly while a turbine powered aircraft is flying, shall seek express permission
to take off from the spotter(s).
e. It is STRONGLY ENCOURAGED that aircraft with dramatic speed or performance differences
not be operated together without coordination before the flight.
3) Pilots wishing to operate Turbine Powered Aircraft at Eagle Field must adhere to the AMA Turbine
Safety Regulations, the NDRCC Field Safety Rules, and the NDRCC Field Safety Rules Turbine
Amendment.
NDRCC Field Safety Rules – Turbine Amendment
Section 1 – General Rules for Turbine Powered Aircraft
1) The Board will establish an appointed position of Turbine Coordinator. The Turbine Coordinator will
oversee Turbine Pilot Authorization and Turbine Safety.
2) All pilots operating turbine powered aircraft, shall pre-stage a minimum set of firefighting
equipment
in their own vehicle or on a club provided vehicle or trailer. The vehicle must be able to reach all areas
of our facility and overflight areas. Minimum equipment shall include:
a. One or more devices with a combined total of 5 Gallons of water
b. Two chemical or CO2 based fire extinguishers.

3) Prior to the first flight of the day, each pilot of a turbine powered aircraft shall inspect all
firefighting
equipment to verify that the equipment is in proper working order and ready to deploy.
Section 2 – Turbine Pilot Authorization
1) For the purposes of Pilot Authorization and Turbine Operations, an Authorized Turbine Leader shall
mean the Turbine Coordinator, Safety Officer, Turbine Waivered Board Member, or another
authorized member as determined by the Board of Directors. The club will maintain a minimum of 5
authorized Turbine Leaders.
2) The Turbine Coordinator will maintain a list of all Authorized Turbine Pilots and Leaders.
3) Any pilot wishing to operate a turbine powered aircraft at Eagle Field must be a member of NDRCC,
possess a valid Turbine Waiver from the AMA and be an Authorized Turbine Pilot by the club.
4) To become an Authorized Turbine Pilot, a pilot will:
a. Go through a Field Familiarization meeting with an Authorized Turbine Leader. This will
include:
i. Review of Rules & Daily Operation Checks prior to flight
ii. The locations of emergency equipment
iii. Fire response tools and their operation
iv. Vehicle routes to all off field locations
v. Visual Identification of critical field landmarks
vi. Emergency response phone numbers and locations
vii. All codes and procedures needed during and after an incident.
b. Perform 2 flights with an Authorized Turbine Leader as a spotter.
5) The Board of Directors may vote to temporarily or indefinitely suspend a turbine pilot’s
authorization
to operate a turbine powered aircraft for failure to follow any of the NDRCC Field Safety Rules.
6) Any crash of a turbine powered aircraft that causes a fire shall result in an automatic suspension of
the

pilot’s authorization to operate a turbine powered aircraft for 30 days. The Board of Directors may
alter the length of this suspension at any time.
7) Should the Board of Directors suspend a pilot’s authorization, they must include any actions the
pilot
must take to reactivate their authorization.
Section 3 – Turbine Operations
1) Prior to the maiden flight or after significant maintenance or repair to a turbine powered aircraft,
the
pilot must have an Authorized Turbine Leader validate the safety features of the aircraft. At minimum,
this includes all fail safe systems, engine shut down procedures, and a range test. An Authorized
Turbine Leader may not inspect their own aircraft.
2) Each pilot must have a spotter during all operations of a turbine powered aircraft.
3) The pilot and the spotter must be physically able to respond to the location of a crashed aircraft and
to
use the equipment required to respond to a post crash fire. Should a pilot not be physically able to do
this, a second spotter is required.
4) The Turbine Coordinator will monitor field conditions and make recommendations to the Board
about
any safety issues related to weather or drought that may increase the risk of an uncontrollable fire.
Section 4 – Events
1) Event pilots wishing to operate a turbine powered aircraft shall have their credentials inspected at
registration, including their AMA Turbine Waiver. Event pilots do not need to be a member of NDRCC
to operate turbine powered aircraft at designated events.
2) All event pilots intending to operate a turbine powered aircraft will attest that:
a. Each turbine powered aircraft has been previously flown successfully and is in proper working
order.
b. Agree to an inspection by the CD or authorized representative to validate the safety of the

aircraft per Section 3.1.
c. They are an “Experienced Turbine Pilot” as defined by the AMA
3) The Contest Director may wave rules #1.2 and #1.3 so long as the event provides alternate fire
protection.
Section 5 – Guests
1) Any Guest wishing to operate a turbine powered aircraft at Eagle Field must adhere to the NDRCC
Guest Rules, possess a valid Turbine Waiver from the AMA, and must be sponsored by a member that
is a Turbine Authorized Pilot.
2) All Guest pilots intending to operate a turbine powered aircraft will attest that:
a. They are an “Experienced Turbine Pilot” as defined by the AMA.
b. Each turbine powered aircraft has been previously flown successfully and is in proper working
order.
c. All fail safe systems and engine shut down procedures are properly configured. This must be
verified by the sponsoring member by demonstration of these features. If the aircraft is
operated for more than 5 total lifetime flights at Eagle Field, the aircraft must be reinspected
by an Authorized Turbine Leader.
d. A Range Test has been performed prior to the first flight at Eagle Field and witnessed by the
Sponsoring Member.
e. The aircraft is under 55 pounds ready to fly and does not require an LMA Waiver.
3) The sponsoring member:
a. Is responsible for the Guest while they are at Eagle Field.
b. Must serve as the Guest’s spotter for all flights of a Turbine Powered Aircraft.
c. Must adhere to all rules as if they are operating a Turbine Powered Aircraft.
d. Will notify an Authorized Turbine Leader prior to a Guest flying a Turbine Powered Aircraft.
i. Notification may be by phone, voicemail, text message, email, or in person. If the

sponsoring member is an Authorized Turbine Leader, no additional notification is
required.
ii. Notification will include the Guests Name, AMA Number, date of flight(s), and
verification that the required inspections have been performed.
iii. There is no specific notification period. Only that notification must be sent prior to the
Guest’s first flight of a Turbine Powered Aircraft.
END of Proposed Rules
Nominations for officers for the year 2023 was held. A motion was made, and seconded, to approve the
following nominations for December vote. Approval passed unanimously, by voice vote.
President Josh Kleen
Vice President Wayne Shuck
Secretary Rich Phillips
Treasury Ewald (Art) Wagner
Membership Bruce Lakatos
Field Rex Lawerance
Business portion of meeting closed at approximately 8:30 PM
SHOW AND TELL:
Art Wagner showed his new pattern plane from NTS. The plane is in an advanced state of completion
from the manufacturer. Beautifully finished airplane.
Presentation:
None
Program:
None